Transformative leadership education: a cybernetics-inspired approach

Building on previous sections that focused on what we need to learn to lead change, from a cybernetic viewpoint, this section will now bring in our insights from the Master of Applied Cybernetics, an experiment in transformative leadership education. It particularly focuses on the environment we need to create so that we can learn. Think of this as the how of leadership learning.

Insights from an experiment in individual and collective transformation

How can we use cybernetic leadership education experiences and tools, such as collective making, multi-perspective systems analyses and speculative futures, to create different neural pathways to imagine and enact change? How can we ensure that our educational experiences build their own momentum?

We have learned a great deal about cybernetic leadership from the Master of Applied Cybernetics at the Australian National University, an experimental program that we have run since 2019. By way of background, the program is a year-long, full-time, in-person, immersive experience for between 10 and 20 students. Around 6 educators do the majority of the teaching, with a range of guests and external perspectives brought in at various points in the year.

The program is specifically developed in place with connection to Country — at the Australian National University that is the land of the Ngunnawal and Ngambri peoples in the region where Australia’s capital city Canberra now sits. Students are welcomed onto Country, and those Countries that are connected are brought into dialogue through the program, whether through student, staff, partner or guest connections.

The program engages heads, hands and hearts. Students build with hardware and software in a dedicated lab space and discover new insights through interactive activities (hands). They are encouraged to engage personally with the content, to surface and reflect on their values in connection and interaction with the values inherent the course material (hearts). They are taught critical question asking and to engage their critical brain at every step (heads).

Although the objectives of this program are linked to integration of new technologies into society and environments, they share similarities to some other cybernetic programs for training people in systemic change and leading future product design. Over several iterations of the program, staff and partners from within and beyond the university have woven together multiple cybernetic threads, adding to and amplifying those noted in the sections above:

  • multi-modal communication approaches including for memorable story-telling, and learning/development of new languages and translation between these and other languages—for this case it includes the Python computer language, and systems and cybernetics theory terminology and modelling schema;
  • multi-faceted approaches to creativity and prototyping through designing and building technology with both reclaimed and harvested materials, as well as those employing more advanced manufacturing and visualization technologies;
  • embodied, analytical and reflective exercises to enhance critical and computational thinking, and selfreflexivity, including those needed to reflect on multiple values and what imagining and building safe, sustainable and responsible futures might entail; and
  • facilitation skills to support collective learning of others by effectively acknowledging multiple ways of knowing, being and doing and deploying methods and analytical frames
    that support pluralist analyses, boundary spanning and critical action.

Skills and formats for learning to lead: insights for leadership training

We discovered that the structured spaces we created, where individuals with diverse profiles from different organisations come together, freed learners up to play, imagine, create, unlearn and relearn who and what they seek to do in relation to each other and the wider world – in the context of scaling technology and AI for a safe, sustainable and responsible world. The very specific challenges we assigned to work through together were deliberately designed to provoke the productive discomfort that arises from the presence of different languages, values, cultural constructs and ways of knowing, being and doing in the world. This enabled students to hold difference together in creative tension.

Two critical cybernetic themes we experimented with in the program are context-awareness and feedback. Encouraging similarities and differences to be identified and respected, and allowing ideas and people to transform through learning, interaction and feedback from others in and beyond the learning system space, provoked the generation of alternative views in individuals. This act created safe and (re) generative spaces for individual reflection and support to imagine, challenge and renew amongst moments of collective and peak
experience.

Overall, we found that the program helped students develop their own individual and collective syntheses that led to deep personal learning and change. We have discovered that transformation is cohort specific, dependent on interactions between students and staff. We have observed that staff are a necessary part of the transformational experience and undergo their own journey. Each year we have noted the development of new collective imaginations and differing levels of productive discomfort. These appear to be fit for the purposes and systems of interest of the learners involved – a genuinely novel synthesis.

The program commenced in 2019. That means we have now guided 2 out of the 3 cohorts of Masters students through a COVID-aware world, where we value — but cannot always achieve — embodiment. We must embrace, and strive to improve, hybrid experiences: cybernetic principles of feedback, interaction with technology, selfreflexivity and connections strongly support our efforts in this area. Here we summarise some of the key cybernetic ingredients to facilitate leadership learning that support the principles noted in the earlier
sections in this paper:

Embodied experiences

We refer to embodiment to capture all those elements of learning that involve other parts of the learner’s body than their mouth and ears (talking and listening). Embodiment might include physical activities, sensory exploration, or making. The act of making — both individually and collectively — is a key element of learning in the Masters program, designed to go beyond typical intellectual traditions. We employ it to support learning through frustration and the unknown/unpracticed, but also to hone an ability for purposeful composition and an understanding of interactions and dynamics. Not least of all, making allows learners to achieve a sense of accomplishment and often wonder from the experience of exploration or
creativity.

Creating space for self-reflexivity, courage and creativity

When there is enough trust in the space, leadership skills such as self-reflexivity, embracing vulnerability, respectful and persuasive communication, imaginative speculation and a range of systems analysis and intervention methods can be unlocked. As well as creating this for our students, we teach by example how they can create this space for themselves and their teams. Creating space is a key leadership skill we demonstrate and foster in the student cohorts.

Facilitating viable strategic and collective action

Understanding how to structure, support and facilitate collective action in desired directions for change is another specific leadership skill for driving systemic change. Viable pathways and new interconnections/assemblages/cybernetic feedback cycles can be developed for future complex systems operations leading processes of managing alignments and opportunities. This requires convening and communicating skills including storytelling49 and deep listening as a basis for facilitating cybernetic conversations as a platform for change. These all feature in our program.

Navigating and supporting creative tensions

Understanding and providing tools for respectfully disrupting assumptions, developing multi-sensorial and multiperspective awareness and encouraging it in others to acknowledge where tensions might stem from and that all sides hold particular values and beliefs; learning to boundary span, connect and translate between multiple languages and to acknowledge the system viability benefits of the hybrid.

Stay tuned, next up is the final in this series of extracts, we will bring you – Next Steps; scaling capability

Natasha Eskinja

Digital Communications Coordinator

Natasha is driven by a profound passion for both creativity and analytics, a synergy that fosters authentic storytelling in the digital realm with both innovation and integrity. 

Throughout her career, she has consistently integrated the overarching marketing and communications narrative with the emotional connections of audiences. She is currently pursuing a Certificate in Society and the Individual from Flinders University, furthering her exploration of human behaviour and the critical importance of connectedness between organisations, individuals, and communities.

LinkedIn | natasha.eskinja@menziesfoundation.org.au

Sarah Jenkins

Strategic Communications Manager

Sarah has more than 18 years’ experience in communications and marketing leadership across a range of sectors.

Communications strategy and organisational growth is a continuing theme in Sarah’s career. Most recently, she leads the development of a Leadership Movement, evaluated by Menzies Viral Co-efficient Model; a contribution to the NFP. 

Sarah’s early career centred around best practice in marketing and communications which later culminated into the establishment of her very own agency. This work extensively spanned across PR, traditional media, event management, strategy, digital marketing, graphic design and business development consultancy. 

In 2019, Sarah joined the lean and robust team at the Menzies Foundation. She has since crafted the Foundation’s narrative and communication strategy. The development of this strategic communications platform is essential for ‘movement building’ and requires a strong strategic, management and communication skills set. Sarah has brought so much to this important work, which sits at the forefront of communication practice. 

Sarah continues to contribute to the NFP sector through her commitment to Purpose; as she reflects on her own leadership, builds her own leadership capability and contributes to the greater good. 

LinkedIn | sarah.jenkins@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0401 880 071

Rohan Martyres

Director, Strategy and Partnerships

Rohan has 15 years’ experience in facilitating cross-sector collaborations to address complex social and health challenges.  He has worked with the World Economic Forum in Australia, led an international conflict resolution field team in Nepal, and directed a 10-year £40m initiative to reduce health inequity in London.

Most recently, Rohan was Major Grants Development Manager at the Ian Potter Foundation.  He refined the foundation’s major grants strategy, and co-developed a series of large scale initiatives, including joint philanthropic-government funding for a new national organization to support place-based approaches across Australia.

Rohan has held several non-executive roles, including with an international NGO and with London Funders, the peak body of independent foundations in London.  He holds several qualifications including a graduate degree in innovation and strategy from the Judge Business School, University of Cambridge.

When Rohan isn’t exploring Melbourne’s creeks with his partner and 6yo daughter, he’s working on his currently weak Australian accent (after 15 years in the UK).

LinkedIn | rohan.martyres@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0404 505 954

Trudy Morrison

Operations Manager

A marketing and communications specialist with over 20 years experience in government, corporate and consumer marketing, Trudy brings her adaptive and organisational project management skills to the Menzies Foundation team. 

With a BA degree in Public Relations, Trudy began her career with the City of Melbourne and in magazine publishing, before moving into marketing communications consulting. She has worked in strategic marketing leadership roles with retail brands and enjoys juggling many projects and tasks simultaneously. Her skills were further enhanced when managing her own communications business representing industries across private education, financial services, aviation, government and the health industry. 

Trudy is passionate about leadership and all people being encouraged to reach their full potential through research and educational initiatives and opportunities throughout Australia. A skilled and accomplished writer and editor Trudy is enthusiastic about bringing her variety of skills to the Menzies Foundation team. 

LinkedIn | trudy.morrison@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0402 361 878

Liz Gillies

Chief Executive Officer

Liz Gillies has had over 25 years experience in a range of fields focused on initiatives for social impact. She has held roles in multiple sectors and academia.

In 2018, Liz was appointed CEO of the Menzies Foundation which aspires to build a leadership movement that supports Australians to pivot to purpose, build their leadership capability and contribute to the ‘greater good’.

Liz joined the Melbourne Business School in 2009 and was instrumental in establishing the Asia Pacific Social Impact Centre (APSIC) and The Centre for Ethical Leadership. In November 2011 she was appointed as research fellow to lead a partnership focused on strategic philanthropy which culminated in the release of the reports: Philanthropy: Towards a Better Practice Model (2018) and the Philanthropy: The Continued Journey to Real Impact and better Practice (2021).

Liz has extensive governance experience, having served on the Board of the Publish Galleries Association of Victoria, Social Firms Australia, Uniting Care Community Options, United Way Australia and the Development Committee of the Towards a Just Society Foundation. She is currently on the Philanthropy Reference Group of Barmal Bijiril and a Director of Philanthropy Australia.

LinkedIn | liz.gillies@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0416 112 703

Natasha Eskinja

Digital Communications Coordinator

Natasha is driven by a profound passion for both creativity and analytics, a synergy that fosters authentic storytelling in the digital realm with both innovation and integrity. 

Throughout her career, she has consistently integrated the overarching marketing and communications narrative with the emotional connections of audiences. She is currently pursuing a Certificate in Society and the Individual from Flinders University, furthering her exploration of human behaviour and the critical importance of connectedness between organisations, individuals, and communities.