Thriving in Complexity: Leading When There Are No Maps

Leading Through the Unknown: Thriving in the Age of Complexity

How do you lead when the path ahead no longer exists?

In an era where institutions, ecosystems, and communities are all reshaping themselves in real time, leadership has become less about direction and more about navigation. In the third episode of The Future of Leadership Development, host Dr Toby Newstead is joined by Professor David Snowden, founder of The Cynefin Company and creator of the Cynefin Framework, to unpack how leaders can make sense — and make progress — in a world defined by uncertainty.

When Maps Fail

Snowden’s work has become a cornerstone of modern complexity thinking. He draws a clear distinction between the complicated and the complex. Complicated systems, he explains, are like engines — predictable with enough analysis. Complex systems, by contrast, are alive. “You can only understand them retrospectively,” he says. “You can’t plan your way forward; you have to probe, sense, and respond.”

This shift in logic changes everything about leadership. The leader ceases to be a master planner and becomes an experimenter-in-chief. Progress depends not on the ability to forecast but on the courage to explore — to run safe-to-fail experiments and learn fast from their outcomes.

Snowden argues that our addiction to linear planning is a cultural hangover from industrial-era management. “The real world isn’t ordered,” he warns. “The belief that it is makes us fragile.” In complexity, control is replaced by curiosity.

Creating Context, Not Control

If control is an illusion, what remains of leadership? For Snowden, the answer is context creation. “The leader’s job is not to make decisions for people,” he says. “It’s to create the scaffolding within which good decisions can emerge.”

This means designing boundaries that guide without constraining — systems of feedback, narrative, and shared values that keep collective energy aligned even when outcomes are unpredictable. It also means decentralising authority so that local actors can adapt in real time. “You don’t get resilience from centralisation,” Snowden insists. “You get fragility.”

Effective leaders, then, are gardeners, not engineers. They shape the conditions for coherence, not compliance. Their power lies in attention: noticing what the system is trying to tell them before it speaks in crisis.

The Discipline of Sense-Making

Snowden defines leadership as “the art of sense-making under pressure.” It is a collective process — a way of continuously constructing meaning through dialogue, observation, and iteration. This demands humility: leaders must be willing to admit they don’t know. “If you think you understand a complex system,” he cautions, “you don’t.”

Instead of pretending to predict the future, sense-making leaders become explorers of the present. They run parallel experiments, look for emergent patterns, and adjust course quickly. The focus shifts from what’s the plan? to what are we learning? Complexity punishes certainty but rewards attentiveness.

Snowden’s Cynefin Framework provides one of the few practical guides for this mindset — distinguishing between clear, complicated, complex, and chaotic domains, each requiring a different form of leadership. Its genius lies in its simplicity: not every problem is the same kind of problem, and leaders must discern which logic applies before acting.

Ethics in the Unknown

In a world of unpredictable consequences, ethics becomes both harder and more essential. Snowden notes that in complexity, “you can’t know the full outcomes of your decisions — so ethics becomes about disposition.” Leadership, therefore, is not just about making the right call; it’s about how we make it — with care, curiosity, and consciousness of potential harm.

He argues that leaders should be judged less by outcomes and more by their ethical posture — whether they act with integrity when clarity is impossible. This shift reframes ethics from compliance to character. It is about cultivating the capacity to stay kind, fair, and alert amid ambiguity.

Learning in Action

Snowden is unsparing in his critique of conventional leadership programs. “You don’t learn to swim by reading a manual,” he says. Theory without context, he warns, breeds arrogance. Real learning must happen in the field — through practice, failure, and reflection.

He advocates for micro-learning: short, iterative cycles of experience and feedback embedded in real work. This model treats leadership development as an ongoing apprenticeship in awareness. “Complexity,” he reminds us, “is a teacher that never stops talking. The question is whether we’re listening.”

For Newstead, this conversation strikes at the heart of leadership education itself: if complexity is the context, then development must become continuous, contextual, and collective — not a program, but a practice.

The Power of Diversity

Complexity rewards diversity because diverse systems are more adaptable. Snowden sees consensus as a warning sign. “If everyone agrees,” he quips, “you’re probably wrong.” Difference — of perspective, experience, or discipline — expands the system’s field of awareness. The leader’s role is to curate variety, not suppress it.

This has profound implications for inclusion. When organisations truly value diversity as an asset rather than an obligation, they become more intelligent. Diverse teams see patterns earlier, test assumptions faster, and recover from shocks more effectively.

Leading in the Liminal

Snowden describes today’s leaders as “liminal actors” — those who operate in the threshold between stability and change. The liminal space is uncomfortable: the old logic has lost its grip, and the new one has yet to form. But that, he insists, is where transformation happens.

Leadership in the liminal is not about eliminating uncertainty but holding it long enough for coherence to emerge. It is about resisting the urge to retreat to false certainty. “In the past,” Snowden says, “we thought of leadership as creating order. Now it’s about enabling meaning.”

From Maps to Movement

Snowden closes with a simple truth: in complex systems, there are no maps — only landscapes that shift as we move through them. The work of leadership is to keep moving, guided by values rather than routes, and by curiosity rather than control.

This redefinition is not comfortable, but it is liberating. To lead in complexity is to trade the illusion of mastery for the discipline of learning — to move with the system, not against it. It is to see leadership not as a destination but as a journey undertaken together, step by adaptive step.

🎧 Listen to Episode 3 — Thriving in Complexity: Leading When There Are No Maps on The Future of Leadership Development, hosted by Dr Toby Newstead with Professor David Snowden.

At the Menzies Leadership Foundation, we know today’s leaders are operating in landscapes where clarity is brief and the path ahead is always shifting. Leadership is no longer about following the map — it’s about learning to move when no map exists.

Through the Menzies Leadership Forum, we’re exploring what it means to lead in complexity: to create context instead of control, to sense and respond rather than predict, and to empower people to act with curiosity, courage, and care.

By working with researchers, practitioners, and systems thinkers like Professor David Snowden, we aim to grow leadership as a shared human capacity — adaptive, ethical, and grounded in collective intelligence.

The age of certainty is over. The future of leadership begins with those willing to navigate the unknown together.

Natasha Eskinja

Digital Communications Coordinator

Natasha is driven by a profound passion for both creativity and analytics, a synergy that fosters authentic storytelling in the digital realm with both innovation and integrity. 

Throughout her career, she has consistently integrated the overarching marketing and communications narrative with the emotional connections of audiences. She is currently pursuing a Certificate in Society and the Individual from Flinders University, furthering her exploration of human behaviour and the critical importance of connectedness between organisations, individuals, and communities.

LinkedIn | natasha.eskinja@menziesfoundation.org.au

Sarah Jenkins

Strategic Communications Manager

Sarah has more than 18 years’ experience in communications and marketing leadership across a range of sectors.

Communications strategy and organisational growth is a continuing theme in Sarah’s career. Most recently, she leads the development of a Leadership Movement, evaluated by Menzies Viral Co-efficient Model; a contribution to the NFP. 

Sarah’s early career centred around best practice in marketing and communications which later culminated into the establishment of her very own agency. This work extensively spanned across PR, traditional media, event management, strategy, digital marketing, graphic design and business development consultancy. 

In 2019, Sarah joined the lean and robust team at the Menzies Foundation. She has since crafted the Foundation’s narrative and communication strategy. The development of this strategic communications platform is essential for ‘movement building’ and requires a strong strategic, management and communication skills set. Sarah has brought so much to this important work, which sits at the forefront of communication practice. 

Sarah continues to contribute to the NFP sector through her commitment to Purpose; as she reflects on her own leadership, builds her own leadership capability and contributes to the greater good. 

LinkedIn | sarah.jenkins@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0401 880 071

Rohan Martyres

Director, Strategy and Partnerships

Rohan has 15 years’ experience in facilitating cross-sector collaborations to address complex social and health challenges.  He has worked with the World Economic Forum in Australia, led an international conflict resolution field team in Nepal, and directed a 10-year £40m initiative to reduce health inequity in London.

Most recently, Rohan was Major Grants Development Manager at the Ian Potter Foundation.  He refined the foundation’s major grants strategy, and co-developed a series of large scale initiatives, including joint philanthropic-government funding for a new national organization to support place-based approaches across Australia.

Rohan has held several non-executive roles, including with an international NGO and with London Funders, the peak body of independent foundations in London.  He holds several qualifications including a graduate degree in innovation and strategy from the Judge Business School, University of Cambridge.

When Rohan isn’t exploring Melbourne’s creeks with his partner and 6yo daughter, he’s working on his currently weak Australian accent (after 15 years in the UK).

LinkedIn | rohan.martyres@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0404 505 954

Trudy Morrison

Operations Manager

A marketing and communications specialist with over 20 years experience in government, corporate and consumer marketing, Trudy brings her adaptive and organisational project management skills to the Menzies Foundation team. 

With a BA degree in Public Relations, Trudy began her career with the City of Melbourne and in magazine publishing, before moving into marketing communications consulting. She has worked in strategic marketing leadership roles with retail brands and enjoys juggling many projects and tasks simultaneously. Her skills were further enhanced when managing her own communications business representing industries across private education, financial services, aviation, government and the health industry. 

Trudy is passionate about leadership and all people being encouraged to reach their full potential through research and educational initiatives and opportunities throughout Australia. A skilled and accomplished writer and editor Trudy is enthusiastic about bringing her variety of skills to the Menzies Foundation team. 

LinkedIn | trudy.morrison@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0402 361 878

Liz Gillies

Chief Executive Officer

Liz Gillies has had over 25 years experience in a range of fields focused on initiatives for social impact. She has held roles in multiple sectors and academia.

In 2018, Liz was appointed CEO of the Menzies Foundation which aspires to build a leadership movement that supports Australians to pivot to purpose, build their leadership capability and contribute to the ‘greater good’.

Liz joined the Melbourne Business School in 2009 and was instrumental in establishing the Asia Pacific Social Impact Centre (APSIC) and The Centre for Ethical Leadership. In November 2011 she was appointed as research fellow to lead a partnership focused on strategic philanthropy which culminated in the release of the reports: Philanthropy: Towards a Better Practice Model (2018) and the Philanthropy: The Continued Journey to Real Impact and better Practice (2021).

Liz has extensive governance experience, having served on the Board of the Publish Galleries Association of Victoria, Social Firms Australia, Uniting Care Community Options, United Way Australia and the Development Committee of the Towards a Just Society Foundation. She is currently on the Philanthropy Reference Group of Barmal Bijiril and a Director of Philanthropy Australia.

LinkedIn | liz.gillies@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0416 112 703

Natasha Eskinja

Digital Communications Coordinator

Natasha is driven by a profound passion for both creativity and analytics, a synergy that fosters authentic storytelling in the digital realm with both innovation and integrity. 

Throughout her career, she has consistently integrated the overarching marketing and communications narrative with the emotional connections of audiences. She is currently pursuing a Certificate in Society and the Individual from Flinders University, furthering her exploration of human behaviour and the critical importance of connectedness between organisations, individuals, and communities.