Demystifying Generative AI – Leading Through Uncertainty, Designing for Integrity

As artificial intelligence accelerates into the mainstream, the legal profession finds itself at a pivotal moment—challenged not only to interpret the implications of emerging technologies, but to lead with clarity, accountability, and care.

In July 2024, the Menzies Leadership Foundation, in collaboration with the Centre for AI and Digital Ethics (CAIDE), hosted a landmark event at Melbourne Law School: Demystifying Generative AI. This timely conversation, moderated by Professor Jeannie Marie Paterson and featuring Lee Hickin (AI Technology & Policy Lead, Asia, Microsoft) and Anna Jaffe (Policy, Regulatory Affairs and Responsible Tech, Atlassian), sought to unpack the generative AI stack and explore what ethical, effective leadership looks like in the face of rapid technological change.

The panel pulled back the curtain on the architecture of generative AI—from the physical infrastructure and data systems that power foundational models to the layered governance, safety mechanisms, and ethical dilemmas that these technologies now demand. The discussion made clear that the term “AI” is often misunderstood, used interchangeably across a spectrum of technologies. Generative AI, the focus of the session, represents a distinct class—capable of producing novel outputs such as text, images, code, and video based on probabilistic patterns derived from vast datasets.

But the conversation extended well beyond technical explanation. At its heart was a provocation: How do we design and regulate technologies that are reshaping our public and legal institutions in real time?

Lee Hickin brought insight into the role of safety mitigations, such as red teaming and retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), while noting that no system is immune from bias, hallucination, or misuse. 
Anna Jaffe pushed the conversation toward the regulatory frontier, emphasising the need for legal frameworks that reflect not only what these systems can do, but what they should do in a just and democratic society.

For the Menzies Leadership Foundation, this dialogue exemplified our belief that leadership is not merely about keeping up with technological change—it’s about shaping it with principle, systems thinking, and responsibility. It’s about recognising that law and policy are not neutral instruments but active terrains of power that must be stewarded with ethical foresight.

The event also underscored the urgency of interdisciplinary leadership development. 

Lawyers, engineers, ethicists, designers, and regulators must now collaborate across silos to develop shared language and mutual understanding. It is precisely this kind of convergence the Ninian Stephen Law Program: New Legal Thinking for Emerging Technologies was created to support. Systems thinking, embedded in the program’s approach, enables legal professionals to examine not just tools, but their place within wider social and institutional systems.

What emerged from Demystifying Generative AI was not just greater understanding, but a call to action—for legal professionals to lead not by default, but by design. In an era of algorithmic influence and technological opacity, we need legal thinkers who can navigate complexity, anticipate risk, and uphold the values of justice and inclusion.

This is the leadership the Menzies Leadership Foundation is committed to nurturing.

The Menzies Leadership Foundation aspires to amplify a leadership movement which encourages citizens to clarify their purpose, deepen the collective understanding of our responsibility to each other and motivates all to act for the ‘greater good’. 

Our work emphasises the imperative of building a non-siloed coalition of the willing to explore and build a new leadership paradigm which engenders confidence in our leaders, builds collaborative capacity and best positions each of us to step forward with the attributes and ability to navigate the complexities of an increasingly challenging and polarised world. 

We invite you to join us in this quest.

The Menzies Leadership Foundation aspires to amplify a leadership movement which encourages citizens to clarify their purpose, deepen the collective understanding of our responsibility to each other and motivates all to act for the ‘greater good’. 

Our work emphasises the imperative of building a non-siloed coalition of the willing to explore and build a new leadership paradigm which engenders confidence in our leaders, builds collaborative capacity and best positions each of us to step forward with the attributes and ability to navigate the complexities of an increasingly challenging and polarised world. 

We invite you to join us in this quest.

Natasha Eskinja

Digital Communications Coordinator

Natasha is driven by a profound passion for both creativity and analytics, a synergy that fosters authentic storytelling in the digital realm with both innovation and integrity. 

Throughout her career, she has consistently integrated the overarching marketing and communications narrative with the emotional connections of audiences. She is currently pursuing a Certificate in Society and the Individual from Flinders University, furthering her exploration of human behaviour and the critical importance of connectedness between organisations, individuals, and communities.

LinkedIn | natasha.eskinja@menziesfoundation.org.au

Sarah Jenkins

Strategic Communications Manager

Sarah has more than 18 years’ experience in communications and marketing leadership across a range of sectors.

Communications strategy and organisational growth is a continuing theme in Sarah’s career. Most recently, she leads the development of a Leadership Movement, evaluated by Menzies Viral Co-efficient Model; a contribution to the NFP. 

Sarah’s early career centred around best practice in marketing and communications which later culminated into the establishment of her very own agency. This work extensively spanned across PR, traditional media, event management, strategy, digital marketing, graphic design and business development consultancy. 

In 2019, Sarah joined the lean and robust team at the Menzies Foundation. She has since crafted the Foundation’s narrative and communication strategy. The development of this strategic communications platform is essential for ‘movement building’ and requires a strong strategic, management and communication skills set. Sarah has brought so much to this important work, which sits at the forefront of communication practice. 

Sarah continues to contribute to the NFP sector through her commitment to Purpose; as she reflects on her own leadership, builds her own leadership capability and contributes to the greater good. 

LinkedIn | sarah.jenkins@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0401 880 071

Rohan Martyres

Director, Strategy and Partnerships

Rohan has 15 years’ experience in facilitating cross-sector collaborations to address complex social and health challenges.  He has worked with the World Economic Forum in Australia, led an international conflict resolution field team in Nepal, and directed a 10-year £40m initiative to reduce health inequity in London.

Most recently, Rohan was Major Grants Development Manager at the Ian Potter Foundation.  He refined the foundation’s major grants strategy, and co-developed a series of large scale initiatives, including joint philanthropic-government funding for a new national organization to support place-based approaches across Australia.

Rohan has held several non-executive roles, including with an international NGO and with London Funders, the peak body of independent foundations in London.  He holds several qualifications including a graduate degree in innovation and strategy from the Judge Business School, University of Cambridge.

When Rohan isn’t exploring Melbourne’s creeks with his partner and 6yo daughter, he’s working on his currently weak Australian accent (after 15 years in the UK).

LinkedIn | rohan.martyres@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0404 505 954

Trudy Morrison

Operations Manager

A marketing and communications specialist with over 20 years experience in government, corporate and consumer marketing, Trudy brings her adaptive and organisational project management skills to the Menzies Foundation team. 

With a BA degree in Public Relations, Trudy began her career with the City of Melbourne and in magazine publishing, before moving into marketing communications consulting. She has worked in strategic marketing leadership roles with retail brands and enjoys juggling many projects and tasks simultaneously. Her skills were further enhanced when managing her own communications business representing industries across private education, financial services, aviation, government and the health industry. 

Trudy is passionate about leadership and all people being encouraged to reach their full potential through research and educational initiatives and opportunities throughout Australia. A skilled and accomplished writer and editor Trudy is enthusiastic about bringing her variety of skills to the Menzies Foundation team. 

LinkedIn | trudy.morrison@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0402 361 878

Liz Gillies

Chief Executive Officer

Liz Gillies has had over 25 years experience in a range of fields focused on initiatives for social impact. She has held roles in multiple sectors and academia.

In 2018, Liz was appointed CEO of the Menzies Foundation which aspires to build a leadership movement that supports Australians to pivot to purpose, build their leadership capability and contribute to the ‘greater good’.

Liz joined the Melbourne Business School in 2009 and was instrumental in establishing the Asia Pacific Social Impact Centre (APSIC) and The Centre for Ethical Leadership. In November 2011 she was appointed as research fellow to lead a partnership focused on strategic philanthropy which culminated in the release of the reports: Philanthropy: Towards a Better Practice Model (2018) and the Philanthropy: The Continued Journey to Real Impact and better Practice (2021).

Liz has extensive governance experience, having served on the Board of the Publish Galleries Association of Victoria, Social Firms Australia, Uniting Care Community Options, United Way Australia and the Development Committee of the Towards a Just Society Foundation. She is currently on the Philanthropy Reference Group of Barmal Bijiril and a Director of Philanthropy Australia.

LinkedIn | liz.gillies@menziesfoundation.org.au | 0416 112 703

Natasha Eskinja

Digital Communications Coordinator

Natasha is driven by a profound passion for both creativity and analytics, a synergy that fosters authentic storytelling in the digital realm with both innovation and integrity. 

Throughout her career, she has consistently integrated the overarching marketing and communications narrative with the emotional connections of audiences. She is currently pursuing a Certificate in Society and the Individual from Flinders University, furthering her exploration of human behaviour and the critical importance of connectedness between organisations, individuals, and communities.